NATE RYAN // Musically Inclined (#010)


Okay, show of hands. Who here, when you were starting your photography career or just getting into taking pictures said, “I want to be a music photographer!” or “I just want to go shoot photos at concerts!”. I think I can safely say that, at least, the idea has crossed the minds of most visual storytellers at some point. There’s something entrancing about the being a concert or music photographer — maybe it’s the spectacle of the lights and showmanship, maybe for the more video-centric amongst us the purposeful, natural blend of audio and visuals, or maybe it’s something about being part of the concert “experience”.

But shooting concerts for free doesn’t put food on your table. Photo credits don’t keep the lights on. Like being any type of photographer, to truly “make it” as a music photographer you have to niche down, achieve a unique style, and find your creative vision that makes you different – not just better – and create work with value.

Today’s guest is a perfect example of focusing down in your work and honing your craft, but never losing sight of the real-world practicalities of making photography work that makes you a living. Nate Ryan is a Minnesota-based photographer and filmmaker, capturing editorial and commercial imagery with a journalistic approach, telling visual stories with integrity. An avid cyclist and active outdoorsman, Nate loves to capture the stories and environments of the natural world. As the staff photographer at 89.3 The Current since 2010, he’s captured photos and video of the countless studio performances with bands that visit the station, as well as many live performances at venues in Minneapolis and St. Paul.

In today’s episode, I get an inside perspective on what it means to be more than just a concert photographer, how Nate pushes himself on every assignment as a photography team of one, and how he creates work for himself that fires him up to get PAID by national clients to shoot that kind of work for them. You can find show notes with photos and links online at

So, without further ado, my behind the curtains conversation with 89.3 The Current Photographer, Nate Ryan.



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Creative Constraints and How to Harness Them (#009)

I know you’ve always heard this old adage: “Think Outside the Box” . It’s often used as something like a motivational poster, acting as a pseudo-metaphor for creativity or innovation. But let’s take a step back to examine that: Think OUTSIDE the box. Think outside the BOX. That assumes there’s a box, some bound on creative output (more on that later). But it makes a critical assumption that I’ve got to say I disagree with: That substantial success only comes through side-stepping constraints, especially creative ones.

Hey everyone and welcome to the Photo Forward podcast, where we dive in deep each week on the art of visual storytelling, exploring the stories behind some of the greatest photographers in the world. From their origin stories to finding balance as creative professionals, to how to actually make a living as a photographer, videographer, or multimedia creator – I’m your host, Ben Brewer

Now, I’m not some genius of Creativity, but I can speak to what I know working as a photojournalist. Along all my assignments, all my projects, all my editorial work — I know this much: The only way I’ve been able to succeed and grow into a better photographer is through limiting CONSTRAINTS.

Yes. That’s right. Aspects of my job that actively constrict my photography have improved my work the most. How so you ask? Well, I see it growing me in four big ways from four kinds of creative constraints.

Work with what you got (LIGHT)

No Do-Overs (ONE CHANCE)

No option but to produce (NECESSITY)

Deliver your work to the world, FAST

I can pretty comfortably say, there aren’t a whole lot of professions out in the working world, like a photographer, that share this unique blend of limitations AND expectation for visual creativity, i.e. ART. I love it, I feed off exploring the box that I’m constrained in. And making my best work inside it. Sure, I can break the mold and innovate outside the box like that old adage, but not until my skills grow, making me the champion of the box I’m in. Let’s break these down:

So, first: Work with what you got (LIGHT). Aside from portrait shoots and some of my video work, almost all of the photo projects I’m on, I shoot with all available light. This is DEFINITELY not a dig against photographers that integrate flash into their creative style. That’s their deliberate choice and honestly, their work kicks ass. Check out the photos of a friend of mine, Phillip Montgomery to see some truly unique, amazing visuals, shot with a speedlight (@PhillipMontgomery on Instagram)

When I’m making these images on assignment, I don’t get to complain my way into having better light, fewer flickering fluorescent bulbs, better matched color temperatures. Nope. And because of the ethical standards that we as photojournalists hold ourselves to to capture the world as it is, there are absolute rules to how much I’m allowed to tone images in post-production editing. Capture creative angles on fleeting moments, no matter what light I have, or don’t have. So, next time you’re shooting photos, play with the light you have. And I do love that word PLAY here, exploring joyfully how you can use it — not complaining that there isn’t enough or that it isn’t quite right.

So, the second constraint on my work is really one of the defining characteristics of photojournalism. Take a look at all of these images of transformative visual moments in history. They’re staggering, they’re arresting, and they all happened in the blink of an eye and then gone, passed, over and done with. What makes the photographers so damn talented, comes from their ability to capture these split-second images. And that, right there, is the essence of the second constraint — No Do-Overs — and as a result of that, Capture Authentic Moments (Though honestly, everything that goes into the ethics of photojournalism, that’s really its own videos worth for a future episode).

So, what makes this constraint so powerful on photography? Think about it this way. When you’re forced to create the image you want, the first time, no do-overs, you have to make it happen in three big ways: planning, intuition, composure. You put yourself in the physical place you’ll need to be, making sure your equipment will deliver exactly what you need it to. You visualize the shot you need to make, following that gut feeling and anticipating peak action or fleeting moments of humanity. And finally, you stay composed and focused on making those anticipated images regardless of the circumstances going on around you, no matter how hectic, emotional, or “hurry up and wait” the situation may be.

And this dovetails right into the third instance of constraints on my photography — Necessity. Part of what comes with being a professional photographer or any professional creative for that matter, is that when all the of that planning, intuition, and composure come together, you HAVE TO deliver your visual creativity ON DEMAND. When I agree to cover a news event or making a portrait image for editorial clients, I commit to delivering for them. No excuses. Sure, extenuating circumstances come up, but those are the exception not the rule. Often times, I may be one of the only still photographers on location at newsworthy events and, if I don’t make that memorable image happen, it’ll never happen. When your clients depend on you to deliver, that necessity is a constraint that drives me CRAZY. It pushes me to create on a totally different level.

And when you create memorable images for the world, as the Reuters photographer on assignment or the designated freelancer for the New York Times, MINUTES MATTER. At events where the big TV news agencies are on location, by the time the live feed cameras stop rolling, still photographers are already behind, already fighting against the breakneck speed of information, 24/7 news culture. It’s definitely not unusual to see a pack of still news photographers *hauling ass* back to laptops to download, caption, edit, and file off images to our photo editors or assignment desks. And it’s not just good exercise in a physical way. It’s exercise in creativity and visualization. I feel like I’m practically downloading in my mind the full set of images on the card— which angles/positions worked, when you nailed focus and exposure and when you DIDN’T, and when specific moments of emotion or peak action clicked, all in the name of shaving minutes off time to deliver these images to the world. In the words of photographer Chase Jarvis, founder of Creative Live — “It’s Chaos; just the way I like it.”

And there we have it, those are the constraints, the walls of the box, that I work within as a photojournalist. I’m constantly learning to find the I can eventually break outside of it. These limitations and challenges stay attached to me, even when I’m not on assignment. They challenge my way of thinking in every aspect of my life . Because not having all the light, not having all the equipment, not having all the opportunity and time in the world… that’s what drives innovative, transformative work.


QUESTION(S) OF THE DAY // What was your favorite quote or lesson from this episode? Please let me know in the comments!

ACKERMAN + GRUBER // Dynamic Duo (#008)


In past episodes of Photo Forward, we’ve looked at a ton of different topics in visual storytelling — from creating a long term documentary project to how to pitch that work to editors in the wider world. And in all of those stories, it’s been typically centered around solo operators, freelancers, and individuals. Well today is breaking that mold ENTIRELY.

Crafting a successful freelance photography career is NO SMALL FEAT. From accounting to marketing to insurance and everything in between… It’s ALL on YOU. Now imagine adding an extra personal wrinkle: Your photography partner is also your LIFE PARTNER. That’s the story for today’s amazing guests – Jenn Ackermann and Tim Gruber.

Jenn Ackerman and Tim Gruber are a husband and wife team based in Minneapolis, MN. You will almost always find them working side by side, which has been the case since grad school. They enjoy the collaborative nature of being a tight-knit team and pushing each other to create images that sing. Their goal on every assignment is simple - evoke emotion and authenticity in every image they make to advertising, corporate and editorial clients. They pride themselves in being storytellers and work to create a narrative in every photo they take.

Their work has been honored by the Communication Arts Photography Annual and Advertising Annual 2009, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2017, 2019, American Photography 28, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36 PDN Photo Annual, Review Santa Fe Center Project Competition, Photolucida’s Critical Mass, Inge Morath Award, Magnum Expression Award, POYi, and many others. Their most recent documentary film won an Emmy and they were named a McKnight Fellow and to PDN's 30 Photographers to Watch.

In today’s interview, Jenn, Tim and I tackled a ton on the nature of crafting AUTHENTIC visual storytelling work, getting through those “scary” times building a creative business, and how crucially important open communication is for growing a collaborative partnership.


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SHOW NOTES // Coming Soon!

COBURN DUKEHART // An Editor's Insight (#004)

 Wisconsin Center for Investigative Journalism Watchdog Awards in Madison, WI on Tuesday, April 16, 2019.

All you younger photographers, all you independent photographers, all you freelancers – break out the notebooks because this episode is not one you’ll want to miss. While we’ve talked in previous episodes about making photographs and crafting stories that are meaningful, we haven’t really looked hard at how to get that work seen by the world. (Don’t worry, in a future episode of Photo Forward, we’ll be talking with an expert on pricing and the financial side of creating your work.) But today we’re taking a brief detour from photographers to take a deep dive into the other side of visual storytelling: photo EDITING, with today’s guest Coburn Dukehart.

Coburn Dukehart is the Digital and Multimedia Director for the Wisconsin Center for Investigative Journalism where she directs its visual strategy, creates visual and audio content, manages digital assets and trains student and professional journalists. Our conversation centered around her decades of distinguished work at national news organizations as a photo editor for National Geographic, National Public Radio, and The Washington Post among others.

Coburn has received numerous multimedia awards from the National Press Photographers Association, POYI and the White House News Photographers Association. Her multimedia work also has been honored with a Webby, a Gracie, a Murrow and duPont awards, not to mention a nomination for a national Emmy.

In this episode, Coburn and I talk extensively about a number of visual storytelling topics like: what to do and what NOT to do when you’re making a story pitch to an editor, why building trust with the individuals in your photo stories is critical to making meaningful visual work, and how understanding the ethics of shooting and publishing photos (even captioning them!) can make a key impact on how visual media is viewed. You can find show notes with photos we talked about and links online at . So, without further ado, our interview with Coburn Dukehart.



QUESTION(S) OF THE DAY: What was your favorite quote or lesson from this episode? Please let me know in the comments!

SHOW NOTES: Coming Soon!

JEROME POLLOS // Don't be trendy; Be timeless (#001)

Don’t be trendy; Be TIMELESS.


Jerome Pollos (@TheRomer) is an award-winning Northwest photojournalist specializing in documentary work, weddings and portraits for clients who love timeless, candid moments.

Joining the U.S. Navy right out of high school as a self-described "troublemaker", he was sent to journalism school in Fort Benjamin Harrison, IN, studying broadcast journalism, TV and radio; writing, and a two-week course on photojournalism — which he unceremoniously failed. After a deeply emotional photography assignment, while stationed in Washington, D.C., he saw the true power of photography and his love for the craft grew assignment by assignment. Pollos had an illustrious 13-year career at the Coeur d'Alene Press in Coeur d'Alene, Idaho, but searching for greater creative control and financial freedom, took the freelance plunge in 2014. After a rocky start, he has excelled as an award-winning editorial, wedding, and portrait photographer in the Idaho and Northwest. 

When I was thinking of how best to start this weekly series, at first, I gravitated to the idea of interviewing a “big name” photographer, capitalize on their status and get listeners hooked from the get-go. But I realized early on that didn’t jibe with my whole philosophy for undertaking this – I’m in it for the long haul. Obviously I want to connect with incredible photojournalists the world over, but the soul and purpose of this show – educating photographers on the art of visual storytelling, from photographers with stories of their own that fascinate me.

So, when I stepped back to thinking about photographers with fascinating stories, unique philosophies, and with whom I’ve got a personal connection— it was actually pretty obvious who to invite first. My mentor and friend Jerome Pollos – who gave my career a massive kick-start at my first internship at the Coeur d’Alene Press back in 2010.

In this episode we unpack a ton of interesting stories about finding your visual style as a photographer, how to totally screw up a long-term documentary photo project, and making the earth-shattering move from a staff photographer position to a full-time freelancer (and not losing your mind and bank account in the process). I hope you guys get as much out of this listening as I did recording it.




QUESTION(S) OF THE DAY: What was your favorite quote or lesson from this episode? Please let me know in the comments!